This site best viewed at 800x600 or greater resolution. Please support Our Advertisers. They make this site possible!

HistoricalTrekking.com
Small Horizontal Row
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in
 CalendarCalendar   LinksLinks 
Spanish Cartridge Box

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    HistoricalTrekking.com Forum Index -> Message Board
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Captain Midnight
User


Joined: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 41
Location: Clarksville, TN
Real Name: Jeffrey Greene

PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:23 pm    Post subject: Spanish Cartridge Box Reply with quote

Friends, can anyone point me in the direction of any website or photos of Spanish cartridge boxes, either shoulder-slung or belly box style, from the first quarter of the 18th century? I need examples of ones that were used in North America or the Caribbean. I am trying to research them in order to build a historically accurate replica, and have pretty much come up empty-handed in my search. Thanks for any help you could provide!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
D.S. Bradshaw
User


Joined: 19 Apr 2009
Posts: 208
Location: Middle Waters, USA
Real Name: D. Scott Bradshaw

PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe here:

http://www.amazon.com/Spanish-North-America-c-1700-1783-Men-at-Arms/dp/1849085978

...or here:

http://www.artifacts.org/

Hopefully something will turn up in these two sources.

I had a couple more I thought but cannot find them. I'll keep looking.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
D.S. Bradshaw
User


Joined: 19 Apr 2009
Posts: 208
Location: Middle Waters, USA
Real Name: D. Scott Bradshaw

PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one is later 18th century:

http://www.tamu.edu/faculty/ccbn/dewitt/adp/history/hispanic_period/cartridge.html

or you might contact Steve at Bison Saddlery:

http://www.bisonsaddlery.com/gallery/

Good luck and show us what you come up with!

One more that may help:

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/categories/partdetail.aspx?catid=4&subid=22&styleid=62&partnum=book-sb56v4&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1&as=1
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Adam Wetherington
User


Joined: 29 Apr 2010
Posts: 50

Real Name: Adam Wetherington

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Colonial Spanish Quarter's Leatherworker in St. Augustine used to make them for the guys at the fort. You might be able to contact someone there and get some good info, too. It's been a while since I've stopped by there but they were always a blast to hang out with.

Adam
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
redhill
User


Joined: 31 Aug 2009
Posts: 1
Location: sw VA
Real Name: Chuck Pemberton

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:47 am    Post subject: Spanish cartridge boxes Reply with quote

Do an online search for the Illinois Regiment and/or the Louisiana Spanish Regiment. The Illinois Regiment was formed by George Rogers Clark. Both units carry cartridge boxes with the Spanish crest imprinted on them. I think the website for the Illinois group is Illinoisregiment.org
check the photo section for Kellar's or Holder's companies. Another good source would be Spanish Military Weapons in Colonial America by Sidney Brinkerhoff. The book is long out of print but I was fortunate to locate a copy a few years ago. I think the Illinois Regiment can also be found on Facebook and the Spanish Reg't has a Yahoo site.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Captain Midnight
User


Joined: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 41
Location: Clarksville, TN
Real Name: Jeffrey Greene

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Adam and Redhill. The Spanish crest imprinted upon those flaps is exactly what I am looking for. Anyone know of a close up picture of this crest or a source for the stamp which produces them?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Crooked River
User


Joined: 12 Dec 2009
Posts: 41
Location: Florida
Real Name: Brent O. Baldwin

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Sidney Brinkerhoff book mentioned by Redhill is pretty much the definitive work on Spanish colonial military weapons. As he said, used copies are awfully dear, if you can find one for sale. I was able to borrow a copy from the local university library. You might get one on interlibrary loan. It will be worth the effort.

I don't know if this is the same crest you want, but there is a beautiful one here: Los Adaes: Cultural Worlds. Scroll on down near the bottom of the page and you should find it on the right.

I also sent you a PM.

Brent
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
twobirds
User


Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Posts: 50
Location: East Texas
Real Name: Richard Cole

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 10:09 pm    Post subject: Spanish cartridge box Reply with quote

Greetings:

If you join the Soldado yahoo group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Soldados/, you can search for threads dealing with cartridge boxes. I even recall some discussions concerning a source who had a stamp made.

_________________
Never give up. Never surrender.
- Jason Nesmith
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Captain Midnight
User


Joined: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 41
Location: Clarksville, TN
Real Name: Jeffrey Greene

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Two Birds, for some reason, that link doesn't work.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
twobirds
User


Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Posts: 50
Location: East Texas
Real Name: Richard Cole

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:17 am    Post subject: Spanish cartridge box Reply with quote

Sorry, Captain. Somehow the comma got attached to the link. Try this...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Soldados/

There are photos of several reproductions, and even photos of an original under Photos/Equipment/Cartucheras.

Also, there is another Yahoo group that re-enacts the Spanish Louisiana regiment...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Spanish_Louisiana_Regiment/

I suspect you may also find information there.

Happy Hunting!

_________________
Never give up. Never surrender.
- Jason Nesmith
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Captain Midnight
User


Joined: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 41
Location: Clarksville, TN
Real Name: Jeffrey Greene

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much, Two Birds! I have sent a request to join the group.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    HistoricalTrekking.com Forum Index -> Message Board All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You must Register or Log In to post new topics in this forum
You must Register or Log In to reply to topics in this forum
You must Register or Log In to edit your posts in this forum
You must Register or Log In to delete your posts in this forum
You must Register or Log In to vote in polls in this forum
Back to HistoricalTrekking.com
Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group - This site created 11/24/99 by Historical Enterprises.
Photos, Text, Graphics, and Design Copyright 1999 - Present Historical Enterprises. All Rights Reserved.
Exact Matches Only