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Do you wear a Woven Sash or a Leather Belt? (poll started by Jason)
Woven Sash - Single Wrap
18%
 18%  [ 9 ]
Woven Sash - Double Wrap
27%
 27%  [ 13 ]
Leather Belt
54%
 54%  [ 26 ]
Total Votes : 48

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coloneltubbs
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Belt or sash Reply with quote

I have read if various articles that a waist sash or a belt is used to hold the wrap around hunting shirt closed. Since I am using the date of the late 1760's for my persona, which would be correct?
The reason I ask this is I purchased a very nice waist sash from the Round Robin and have the hardest time keeping it tight. It is a twice wrap sash and I have tried various ways to keep it tight (including sucking it in) but to no avail. Any clues to what I may be doing wrong will be appreciated or should I just switch to a leather belt?
Thanks in advance.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to knot it. The knot may depend on whether you are tying with the woven part or the fringe. With the fringe a halfbow works best. Easy to get undone. Just pull on all the ends with one hand and the "bow" part will slip out. If it is a twice around sash and long enough then there is a way to fold and wrap and tuck the end under and bring it over again that keeps it tight and lays flat. Easy to show. Hard to describe though.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally wear a sash for most of my personae. Leather belts are hard to document in my situation, but a sash is easy. When hanging out in camp, in a canoe, and etc. I perfer to wear nothing... for a belt/sash that is!

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it depends on what you are doing. I use the sash when hunting. I use a belt when carrying my cartridge box or playing sailor.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of the above, plus no belt/sash - depending upon the situation/persona/time period/location. The answer depends upon all these things. So crack a book or two, and do a little actual reseach on your persona, time period, geographical area. If you do this first, before asking someone else to do it for you, you will learn a whole lot more.

Just a sash? Well, what kind?

Military Officer's sash? European gentleman's hunting sash? French Canadien sash? Rocky Mountain Trapper sash? Metis sash? Indian made sash or one traded to them? With fringe or without? How wide/long? What colors and patterns? With or without beads woven in?

These are but a few of the many many questions to ponder when thinking about "just a sash". Once you've answered some of those questions, the answers will often then lead to and dictate how it is worn and tied.

Just some thoughts to ponder.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on when, where, and who you are, as has been ably stated. I wear both most times, so I can't add to the poll, it will only let me click one. My clothing is western fur trade Metis style, so I wear the belt to help hold my trousers up, and the sash to close my capot.

Rod

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: belt Reply with quote

Barktanned leather belt with common brass buckle of the period.....

or...

nowdays ,,as much as I can get by with,,,nothing.

Gave up 'modeling',,lol,,so I dont care if I have that 'casual Friday' look now ....::))

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wear the most unfashionable barktanned leather belt dyed black with a common 18thC brass buckle.....
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes a sash and sometimes a thin leather belt with a brass buckle. Heck, sometimes I wear a belt over a sash. Depends on what I'm toting at the time.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:15 am    Post subject: Sash Reply with quote

I wear a double wrap sash mostly. I find a little more "give"than with a belt, and it stays in place ,holding my knife sheath comfortably.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sash, but often times both!

I use a belt on clot and also to hold extra knife, powder flask and legging straps. Just makes it easier to drop that stuffwhen not needed.... in camp or while in canoe.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For milice a sash made from a 4" wide strip of wool, single wrap.

For RevWar militia/Loyalist ranger, sometimes a belt, sometimes neither.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How d' ye!

Can't vote... :-) :-)

From 1987 through 2000, I wore a leather belt. (Because "everybody" was wearing sashes..)

From 2000 to present, I wear both a sash and a belt.

:-) :-) :-)

Michael Archer
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
For milice a sash made from a 4" wide strip of wool, single wrap.


I tried that, and the sash ended up in "rope" form around my waist. I have since gone back to a single wrap woven sash (by Susan Wallace, by the way).
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I portray bsically a European civilian circa 1760, I wear a relatively narrow inkle loomed sash to hold up my leggins, and a belt around my weskit for knife, etc.

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